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	<title>Law on Rice &#187; Milavetz Gallop &amp; Milavetz P.A. v. United States</title>
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		<title>Early reactions to Milavetz around the blogosphere</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I took a peek around the internet to see what bloggers were saying about today&#8217;s Supreme Court decision in Milavetz, Gallop, &#038; Milavetz, P.A. v. United States, no. 08-1119. Bob Lawless at the popular Credit Slips blog seems satisfied that the decision came out the way he expected, and chastised early reports for their inaccuracies. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a peek around the internet to see what bloggers were saying about today&#8217;s Supreme Court decision in <em>Milavetz, Gallop, &#038; Milavetz, P.A. v. United States</em>, no.  08-1119.</p>
<p><strong>Bob Lawless</strong> at the popular Credit Slips blog <a href="http://www.creditslips.org/creditslips/2010/03/early-thoughts-on-milavetz.html">seems  satisfied that the decision came out the way he expected</a>, and  chastised early reports for their inaccuracies.  By contrast, <strong>M.  Jonathon Hayes</strong> at the BankruptcyProf Blog was <a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/bankruptcyprof_blog/2010/03/supreme-court-rules-on-milavetz.html">&#8220;shocked&#8221;</a> given his read of the oral argument.</p>
<p>On the other hand, <strong>Scott Riddle</strong> at the <a href="http://www.georgiabankruptcyblog.com/archives/us-supreme-court-cases-milavetz-us-supreme-court-to-bankruptcy-lawyers-you-are-debt-relief-agencies.html">Georgia Bankruptcy Blog</a> was surprised that lawyers could be called anything but debt relief agencies under BAPCPA.  <strong>Stephen Sather</strong>, an Austin bankruptcy, lawyer <a href="http://stevesathersbankruptcynews.blogspot.com/2010/03/supreme-court-upholds-constitutionality.html">yawned along with Riddle</a> on the designation, but made the point that BAPCPA survived its first constitutional salvo.</p>
<p><strong>Steve Jakubowski</strong> at Bankruptcy Litigation Blog took the opportunity to <a href="http://www.bankruptcylitigationblog.com/archives/us-supreme-court-cases-us-supreme-court-on-justice-holmes-169th-bday-holds-in-milavetz-that-the-bankruptcy-codes-speech-restrictions-on-attorneys-do-not-turn-them-into-ruthless-drones.html">remind us that today would have been Holmes&#8217; 169th birthday</a>. While Washington State bankruptcy lawyer <strong>Jay Jump</strong> lamented the decision as <a href="http://www.nationalbankruptcyforum.com/uncategorized/milvetz-v-united-states/">a lose-lose proposition for lawyers and their clients alike</a> and rings the free speech warning siren in the process (maybe rightly) at the National Bankruptcy Forum.</p>
<p>As for the <strong>McLeod Law Offices</strong>, they are probably <a href="http://mcleodlawoffices.com/2010/03/we-are-a-debt-relief-agency/">too busy to read the opinion</a>, at least until the weekend.  After all, if you haven&#8217;t heard, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">bankruptcy firms</span> debt relief agencies are a little busy these days&#8211;just a little.</p>
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		<title>Having a Milavetz for lunch</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m skimming one of the long-awaited Supreme Court bankruptcy cases, Milavetz, Gallop, &#38; Milavetz, P.A. v. United States, no. 08-1119, a Justice Soyomayor opinion, for lunch at a Starbucks at Park Central Mall in Phoenix. By now, far more intelligent pundits than I have surely commented on it. Hopeful they are not confused by one [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m skimming one of the long-awaited Supreme Court bankruptcy cases, <em>Milavetz, Gallop, &amp; Milavetz, P.A. v. United States</em>, no. 08-1119, a Justice Soyomayor opinion, for lunch at a Starbucks at Park Central Mall in Phoenix.</p>
<p>By now, far more intelligent pundits than I have surely commented on it. Hopeful they are not confused by one of it&#8217;s most important holdings like I am.</p>
<p>In ruling that BAPCPA prohibitions do not violate free speech, the Court argued that section 526(a) &#8220;prohibits a debt relief agency only from advising an assisted person to incur more debt when the impelling reason for the advice is the anticipation of bankruptcy.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still confused because I was hoping it would more clearly address the situation where a client says, &#8220;I&#8217;m thinking about filing for bankruptcy, should I pay my Visa bill considering they will charge a late fee and increased interest rates?&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that incur more debt?</p>
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